diff --git a/lynglib/src/commonMain/kotlin/net/sergeych/lyng/Scope.kt b/lynglib/src/commonMain/kotlin/net/sergeych/lyng/Scope.kt
index a4e62d0..f1688ee 100644
--- a/lynglib/src/commonMain/kotlin/net/sergeych/lyng/Scope.kt
+++ b/lynglib/src/commonMain/kotlin/net/sergeych/lyng/Scope.kt
@@ -500,16 +500,12 @@ open class Scope(
         return null
     }
 
-    /**
-     * Best-effort lookup of the declared Set element type for a runtime set instance.
-     * Returns null when type info is unavailable.
-     */
-    fun declaredSetElementTypeForValue(value: Obj): TypeDecl? {
+    private fun declaredCollectionElementTypeForValue(value: Obj, rawName: String): TypeDecl? {
         var s: Scope? = this
         var hops = 0
         while (s != null && hops++ < 1024) {
             val decl = s.declaredTypeForValueInThisScope(value)
-            if (decl is TypeDecl.Generic && decl.name.substringAfterLast('.') == "Set") {
+            if (decl is TypeDecl.Generic && decl.name.substringAfterLast('.') == rawName) {
                 return decl.args.firstOrNull()
             }
             s = s.parent
@@ -517,6 +513,20 @@ open class Scope(
         return null
     }
 
+    /**
+     * Best-effort lookup of the declared Set element type for a runtime set instance.
+     * Returns null when type info is unavailable.
+     */
+    fun declaredSetElementTypeForValue(value: Obj): TypeDecl? =
+        declaredCollectionElementTypeForValue(value, "Set")
+
+    /**
+     * Best-effort lookup of the declared List element type for a runtime list instance.
+     * Returns null when type info is unavailable.
+     */
+    fun declaredListElementTypeForValue(value: Obj): TypeDecl? =
+        declaredCollectionElementTypeForValue(value, "List")
+
     internal fun applySlotPlanReset(plan: Map<String, Int>, records: Map<String, ObjRecord>) {
         if (plan.isEmpty()) return
         slots.clear()
diff --git a/lynglib/src/commonMain/kotlin/net/sergeych/lyng/obj/ObjList.kt b/lynglib/src/commonMain/kotlin/net/sergeych/lyng/obj/ObjList.kt
index 5db0acd..3a832e0 100644
--- a/lynglib/src/commonMain/kotlin/net/sergeych/lyng/obj/ObjList.kt
+++ b/lynglib/src/commonMain/kotlin/net/sergeych/lyng/obj/ObjList.kt
@@ -30,6 +30,15 @@ import net.sergeych.lynon.LynonEncoder
 import net.sergeych.lynon.LynonType
 
 class ObjList(val list: MutableList<Obj> = mutableListOf()) : Obj() {
+    private fun shouldTreatAsSingleElement(scope: Scope, other: Obj): Boolean {
+        if (!other.isInstanceOf(ObjIterable)) return true
+        val declaredElementType = scope.declaredListElementTypeForValue(this)
+        if (declaredElementType != null && matchesTypeDecl(scope, other, declaredElementType)) {
+            return true
+        }
+        if (other is ObjString || other is ObjBuffer) return true
+        return false
+    }
 
     override suspend fun equals(scope: Scope, other: Obj): Boolean {
         if (this === other) return true
@@ -127,7 +136,7 @@ class ObjList(val list: MutableList<Obj> = mutableListOf()) : Obj() {
             other is ObjList ->
                 ObjList((list + other.list).toMutableList())
 
-            other.isInstanceOf(ObjIterable) && other !is ObjString && other !is ObjBuffer -> {
+            !shouldTreatAsSingleElement(scope, other) && other.isInstanceOf(ObjIterable) -> {
                 val l = other.callMethod<ObjList>(scope, "toList")
                 ObjList((list + l.list).toMutableList())
             }
@@ -143,7 +152,7 @@ class ObjList(val list: MutableList<Obj> = mutableListOf()) : Obj() {
     override suspend fun plusAssign(scope: Scope, other: Obj): Obj {
         if (other is ObjList) {
             list.addAll(other.list)
-        } else if (other.isInstanceOf(ObjIterable) && other !is ObjString && other !is ObjBuffer) {
+        } else if (!shouldTreatAsSingleElement(scope, other) && other.isInstanceOf(ObjIterable)) {
             val otherList = (other.invokeInstanceMethod(scope, "toList") as ObjList).list
             list.addAll(otherList)
         } else {
@@ -152,6 +161,43 @@ class ObjList(val list: MutableList<Obj> = mutableListOf()) : Obj() {
         return this
     }
 
+    override suspend fun minus(scope: Scope, other: Obj): Obj {
+        val out = list.toMutableList()
+        if (shouldTreatAsSingleElement(scope, other)) {
+            out.remove(other)
+            return ObjList(out)
+        }
+        if (other.isInstanceOf(ObjIterable)) {
+            val toRemove = mutableSetOf<Obj>()
+            other.enumerate(scope) {
+                toRemove += it
+                true
+            }
+            out.removeAll { toRemove.contains(it) }
+            return ObjList(out)
+        }
+        out.remove(other)
+        return ObjList(out)
+    }
+
+    override suspend fun minusAssign(scope: Scope, other: Obj): Obj {
+        if (shouldTreatAsSingleElement(scope, other)) {
+            list.remove(other)
+            return this
+        }
+        if (other.isInstanceOf(ObjIterable)) {
+            val toRemove = mutableSetOf<Obj>()
+            other.enumerate(scope) {
+                toRemove += it
+                true
+            }
+            list.removeAll { toRemove.contains(it) }
+            return this
+        }
+        list.remove(other)
+        return this
+    }
+
     override suspend fun contains(scope: Scope, other: Obj): Boolean {
         if (net.sergeych.lyng.PerfFlags.PRIMITIVE_FASTOPS) {
             // Fast path: int membership in a list of ints (common case in benches)
diff --git a/lynglib/src/commonTest/kotlin/TypesTest.kt b/lynglib/src/commonTest/kotlin/TypesTest.kt
index 860c41c..d0275ab 100644
--- a/lynglib/src/commonTest/kotlin/TypesTest.kt
+++ b/lynglib/src/commonTest/kotlin/TypesTest.kt
@@ -416,6 +416,23 @@ class TypesTest {
         """.trimIndent())
     }
 
+    @Test
+    fun testListTyped() = runTest {
+        eval("""
+            var l = List<String>()
+            val typed: List<String> = l
+            assertEquals(List(), typed)
+
+            l += "foo"
+            assertEquals(List("foo"), l)
+            l -= "foo"
+            assertEquals(List(), l)
+
+            l += ["foo", "bar"]
+            assertEquals(List("foo", "bar"), l)
+        """.trimIndent())
+    }
+
 //    @Test
 //    fun testAliasesInGenerics1() = runTest {
 //        val scope = Script.newScope()